CORRESPONDENCE WITH "BOB"

A BROTHER IN MESSIAH

The following is from an email sent to me. The originator's name has been changed to protect his identity.

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"Bob" wrote:

What is the Hebrew for "I AM"?

I guess my point is that The Heavenly Father nor His son, have a name.

Moses asks, Who should say sent me and He said tell them I Am sent you. My understanding of this statement would be that our creator was not created but has always been and always will be. Maybe this is the most appropriate name as no other being can claim it, but by our present world it is hard say "I AM" is a name.

Christ Himself said in Rev. 1:11: Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

I don't believe The Savior ever is mentioned by name in Revelation.

I have been taught the Jews consider it blasphemy to say His name out loud and this is why we have never had an actual name, so why is all this fuss over a description.

There have been a great number of miracles done in Jesus name. Now did Peter say Yahshua or Messiah or does our almighty creator have all interpretation and understanding and does he not guide us with His Holy Spirit? If so then it seems to me that I could say Hitler if my total understanding is that the name of my savior-creator- Holy God is Hitler then He will know. Isn't that a result of His being omniscience?

Please remember I am only seeking the truth but also remember I love you in Christ and am not wanting to offend you in any way;

Bob

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MY REPLY
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Greetings, my brother in Messiah.

Bob, before I address your "points", I would like to share with you an observation. I have had a few discussions (sort of debates) with you about the Name(s). I have had the same kind of "debates" with others and with some there is no debate at all but total agreement. In as short of form as I can, here is the differences in those that debate vs. those that agree in my discussions. It is best described by saying what is going on in the lives of those who agree in our discussions first. Those who are in agreement are those that have come to the understanding of Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are those doing His commands, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city". We are not talking about keeping Yahweh's Commandments in theory, but in reality, and all of them. That means the true "Sabbath" of Yahweh and not Constantine's "Lord's Day".

Furthermore, those in agreement understand Matt. 5:17-20 quoted in part "Do not think that I have come to destroy the Torah or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy[do away with, put aside] but to complete [or fill to the brim with meaning]. For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one title shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done. Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign [kingdom] of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign [kingdom] of the heavens. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharasees [modern day preachers, ministers, those ordained or put "in charge" of "knowing" the truth], you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens."

When the understanding has come to those who are in agreement with me, they all say that it was after they understood the relationship of the LAW and GRACE. That the LAW is still to be kept, ALL OF IT , except the blood sacrifices. That GRACE means we are not immediately stoned to death today, for a commission of a sin that was worthy of the penalty of death. We are given a GRACE period to beg for and receive forgiveness because our Heavenly Father looks at us and sees the BLOOD of His Son, Yahshua, in place of us. Are we given licence to commit presumptuous sins then? Heaven forbid. Hebrews 10:26 says "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice [covering] for sins, but a certain fearful looking for [fearfully looking forward to judgement] of judgment and fiery indignation [hell] which shall devour [destroy] the adversaries [those commiting presumptuous sins]". Yet our churches say "grace covers all", saying, "If you sin, just ask forgiveness" failing to mention that there remains no covering for presumptuous sins [continuing to sin a sin of a repeated nature knowing full well you are sinning when you are repeatedly doing it, i.e. adultery, lust, etc].

Bob, a partial truth is not the whole truth and therfore a partial truth about grace is a FALSE GOSPEL. As my point being so far in this writing, it is the UNDERSTANDING of the IMPORTANCE OF THE "KEEPING [GUARDING] OF THE COMMANDMENTS OF YAHWEH AND HAVING THE FAITH [BELIEF] IN YAHSHUA MESSIAH" Revelation 14:12

Bob, the two [Yahweh's Commandments (Law "Torah") and belief in Yahshua Messiah] are inseparable yet that is not what the Christian churches in America preach and, I BELIEVE, it is partially why you have not yet come to the understanding of where this all fits in.

Those who understand this relationship are having the Ruach ha Qodesh (Spirit that is Set Apart) give them "eyes to see and ears to hear that they may understand". Many say they "see" and "hear" but with their actions they deny Him. Titus "1:15-16 "Indeed, all matters are clean to the clean, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving no matter is clean, but both their mind and conscience are defiled. They profess to know Elohim (Mighty One with capital "M" & "O", Yahweh) but in WORKS THEY DENY HIM, being abominable, and disobedient, and unfit for any good work."

To me, "abominable" reminds me of what Yahweh said in Lev. 11:43-45 "Do not make yourselves ABOMINABLE (by the things you eat), .... do not make yourselves unclean with them, lest you be defiled by them, [but that is only part of what can make us abominable]. For I am your Elohim, and you shall set yourselves apart. And you shall be set-apart for I am set-apart. And do not defile yourselves with any creeping creature that creeps upon the earth. For I am ...And you shall be set-apart for I am set-apart".

We want truth, RIGHT? and yet we continue to make ourselves abominable and defile ourselves with even the very foods we eat. Shrimp, Crab, Lobster, Pork, Ostriches, Mice, Crows, Vultures, Rabbits, Bats, Camels, Aborted Babies, Cats (my favorite - So many Cats, so few recipes). See, Bob, these I just described are all in the same category and we hold some of them with the deepest disdain yet we dine on some of them as delicacies and pay high prices for that "pleasure" of sin as Yahweh calls it. If we can't come to grips with what it takes to make ourselves "CLEAN" and not partake any more of presumptuous sins, we will never "see" or "hear" or "understand".

Those who understand what I have been sharing with you for the past few weeks have TAKEN THESE STEPS OF FAITH, KEEPING THE SABBATH, REFUSING TO EAT UNCLEAN FOODS, etc. etc. Those who don't understand are desperately seeking "a way" through "reasoning" or man's "understanding" to NOT HAVE TO KEEP THE COMMANDS OF YAHWEH. They only want the GRACE and BELIEF in MESSIAH but don't make us keep the LAW, we like LAWLESSNESS. Matthew 7:23 "And then I shall declare to them, "I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!" [iniquity means lawlessness]. Jude vs 4 says "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were of old ORDAINED to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness [LICENCE], and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ" KJV Better put would be "For certain men have slipped in, whose judgment was written about long ago, wicked ones perverting the favour of our Elohim for the indecency, and denying the only Master and our Master Messiah ." The Scriptures.

Bob, there have been men ORDAINED (your ministers are ORDAINED and have been ORDAINED from the beginning of time to DECEIVE), turning the GRACE of in a LICENCE to be LAWLESS. Think about it. They profess to KNOW HIM but in WORKS DENY HIM.

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Now to your "points".

I AM.

Gen. 15:7 "I am . Because our King James Version or any other the other versions say "I am the LORD" we assume that is His Title, and not an indication of where His True Name, YAHWEH or was replaced with "the LORD".

Gen. 28:13 "I am

Gen. 46:3 "I am Elohim (MightyOne)

Ex. 3:6 I am the Elohim of thy father...

Ex. 3:13-16 "What is His Name? what shall I say to them? And Elohim said to Mosheh, "I am that which I am". And He said Thus you shall say to the children of Yisra'el, I am has sent me to you." "And Elohim said further to Mosheh, Thus you are to say to the children of Yisra'el, Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of of Abraham, of Yitshaq, and of Ya'aqob, has sent me to you. This is MY NAME FOREVER and this is MY REMEMBRANCE to all generations.Go, and you shall gather the elders of Yisra'el together and say to them am Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, of Yitshaq, and of Ya'aqob, appeared to me saying, "I have indeed visited you and seen what is done to you in Egypt"."

did not start off verse 14 by saying His Name was "I AM". "I AM" means in Hebrew "I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE". I will be a pillar of fire at night IF I WANT TO BE. I will be a cloud of smoke by day IF I WANT TO BE. I will be a burning bush IF I WANT TO BE. He was telling Moses that He would BE WHATEVER HE WANTED TO BE and that THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THESE THINGS WERE BEING DONE BY HIS NAME WAS . See the NAME first appears eons before MOSES. In the oldest Hebrew manuscripts, The tetragramaton appears right off the bat in Genesis Chapter 2 verse 3. Then in Genesis 4:26 it says "And to Seth, to him also a son was born. And he called his name Enosh. Then it was begun to call on the NAME OF ." Awesome, The name was begun to be called upon by SETH after the birth of Enosh. WOW! Simply breathtaking! And we, the wicked and adulterous generation don't even know that He has a NAME?

Bob, That last statement I just typed made me bust out in tears. I'm sorry. It is so true. Please my dear friend. Our Elohim (Mighty One) has a NAME. His name is . Please don't be deceived any longer. Call upon the NAME OF . His Name, , has been removed 6823 time. "Narrow is the way and FEW there be that find it".

Bob, Matthew 7:7-8 says "ASK and it shall be given to you, SEEK and you shall find, KNOCK and it shall be opened to you. For everyone who ASKS RECEIVES, and he who SEEKS shall FIND, and to him who KNOCKS it shall be OPENED."

Please don't stop ASKING! Don't stop SEEKING! and Don't stop KNOCKING!. But you must acknowledge your lawlessness and beg forgiveness and "go and sin no more". Eat what was set-apart in Leviticus 11, Keep the 4th Commandment and your life will turn from DEBATE to AGREEMENT. I am totally confident of this.

Jeff (last name and email address removed) who ushers with me at (Organization name omitted) meetings in the past is in total agreement with what I have shared with you. I did not bring him to this understanding. did! It is so amazing that there are a number of those around you, Bob, who have been called out, and YES, I know I've been called out of sin. I cannot remain silent. I have a dozen other things I could be doing right now but I'm pouring my heart out to you with much tears right now. Blindness is caused in part by disobedience. WE MUST KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, turn away from LAWLESSNESS and the

Blindness will begin to disappear. It is possible for one to "see" and "hear" and NOT UNDERSTAND.

I know you are seeking TRUTH. But please, I beg you, take the smallest steps of faith, not just with your tongue, saying "I Believe" but "Do HIS COMMANDS". Rev. 22:14.

I love you so much, Bob. I know the Ruach ha Qodesh is working in your life and you have a soft heart and you DEBATE with me to find out what "Spirit" is leading me. When says in Rev. 1:11 "I am Aleph and the Taw" He was saying "I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE" and "I WILL BE THE BEGINNING AND I WILL BE THE END AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN". Because

I AM

Anything I want to be.

We cannot say that.

As for the Saviour's Name mentioned in Revelations, it is spoken of at least 14 or more times listed as follows:

Chapter 1: 1, 2, 5, 9 twice

Chapter 12:17

Chapter 14:12

Chapter 17:6

Chapter 19:10 twice

Chapter 20:4

Chapter 22:16,20, 21

Now for our Heaven Father's Name Yahweh, it is spoken of at least 16 times in Revelation.

Chapter 1:8,10

Chapter 4:8,11

Chapter 11:17

Chapter 15:3,4

Chapter 16:5,7,14

Chapter 19:1,6,13

Chapter 21:22

Chapter 22:5,6

Bob, it would take me pages more to describe all the things we are to do in Name, but I feel I must share the following quotes from the book Come Out Of Her My People. It would be difficult to argue with the scripture that is being used here unless it is wrestle it unto our own understanding.

Pg. 50:

Maximus of Madaura wrote in approximately 390 C.E., "There is only one God, sole and supreme, without beginning or parentage, whose energies, diffused through the world, we invoke under various names, because we are ignorant of His real Name." This is in direct contrast to what commanded us in Exodus 20:3 and Exodus 23:13, and what Paul tried to rectify in Acts. 17:23.

The substitution of "LORD" has no Scriptural grounds. Indeed, it is directly in contrast to our Elohim's command in Deut. 4:2, and Deut. 12:3c and 4. The writer in Proverbs 30:4 challenges and asks us whether we know the Father's Name and the Son's Name. He then follows on in verses 5-6 by reprimanding us not to delete from, nor add to the Word, as if to say: This is the reason why the Name of the Father and the Name of the Son have become hidden!

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What does Scripture say will happen in the end-time?

o "For I will take from her mouth the names of the Baals, and they shall be remembered by their name no more" (Hosea 2:17). The word baal, it seems, gradually became a proper name: Baal. A similar Semitic word/name, however, originated from an Aryan root Bhal, which means: to shine. Most commentators and scholars, therefore, believe that it was applied to the Sun-deity in most cases.

o "0 Yahuweh... the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, 'Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.' Will a man make mighty ones for himself, which are not mighty ones? Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know My hand and My might; and they shall know that My Name is Yahuweh" (Jer. 16:19-21).

o "Therefore My people shall know My Name" (Isa. 52:6).

o "For then I will restore to the peoples a pure language that they all may call on the Name of Yahuweh" (Zeph. 3:9). 'It shall be in that day', says Yahuweh of hosts, 'that I will cut off the names of the idols" (Zech. 13:2).

o "They will call on My Name, and I will answer them. I will say, 'This is My people'; and each will say, 'Yahuweh is my Elohim' " (Zech. 13:9).

o "And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the Name of Yahuweh shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance, as Yahuweh has said, among the remnant whom Yahuweh calls" (Joel 2:32).

o "For I will make My Set-apart Name known in the midst of My people Israel" (Eze. 39:7).

o "If we had forgotten the name of our Elohim, or stretched out our hands to a foreign mighty one, would not Elohim search this out?" (Psalm 44:20-2 1).

o "Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek Your Name, 0 Yahuweh . . That men may know that You, whose Name alone is Yahuweh, are the Most High over all the earth" (Psalm 83:16-18).

o Has our Messiah not clearly stated in John 17:26b that He will make His Father's Name known to us? Are we allowing Him, who works in us, to do this work of turning back, of restoring, of giving us pure lips, "a pure language, that they all may call on the Name of Yahuweh"(Zeph.3:9)?

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He has commanded us that we should not destroy His Name (Deut. 12:3c and 4). He is sorely displeased with those who have forgotten His Name for Baal (Jer. 23:27), remembering that Baal really was the Sun-deity. "Therefore My people shall know My Name" (Isa. 52:6). "Yahuweh's voice cries to the city - wisdom shall see Your Name" (Micah 6:9).

"For Elohim will save Zion . . . and those who love His Name shall dwell in it" (Ps. 69:35-36). Also read Isa. 56:6-7. If we love Him, we will love His Name. If we love His Name, we will not destroy it (Deut. 12:3c and 4), we will not forget it (Jer. 23:27), we will not substitute it with anything else, let alone substitute it with a title, a generic name, or a name, which had been used for a pagan deity (Exod. 23:13).

Also, and even more applicable to this present study, we will stop substituting His Name with Baal (Jer. 23:27 and Hos. 2:16) that great Sun-deity, also known as Bel, who was the primary deity of Babylon whether "Baal" applies to the name of the Sun-deity, or whether "Baal" is merely used as a title. We are to stop substituting His Name with anything that pertains to a Sun-deity, or even only a title with an idolatrous origin, notwithstanding attempts to justify the "changed meaning of the word."

There is not a single text in all Scripture which prohibits us from calling Him by His Name.

They called upon His Name right back in Gen. 4:26. Abram called upon His Name in Gen. 12:8 and 13:4, and as "Abraham" again in Gen. 21:33. Abraham called the place in Mona "Yahuweh Yireh" (Gen. 22:14). Isaac called upon the Name Yahuweh (Gen. 26:25). Jacob used the Name (Gen. 28:16). Leah used it (Gen. 29:33 and 35). Moses proclaimed the Name of Yahuweh (Deut. 32:3). David declared Yahuweh's Name (Ps. 22:22), and so did our Messiah (Heb. 2:12, John 17:6 & 26). Finally, Yahushua promised to do it again (John I 7:26b) - which you and I are now experiencing!

The Name Yahuweh has been substituted in our translations of the Scriptures with the title "Lord" some 6823 times. The short form, Yah, has also been substituted 48 times with "Lord,"

and only in one place was it retained as: Yah, in Ps. 68:4, in the older and more literal translations. Further, wherever we read "GOD" in capital letters, that too is a substitute for "Yahuweh." This title, "lord," is applied to all heathen deities, if the word "god" is not used for them. In most cases "lord" and "god" are used interchangeably for pagan idols. For instance, Hare Krishna is popularly known as "Lord," and nowadays we hear much about "Lord Maitreya."

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What then, should we use instead of "Lord"? The word "Master" is an exact rendering of the Hebrew Adonai and the Greek Kurios. If we love the name of Yahuweh, as is expected from us (Ps. 69:36, Ps. 119:132, Isa. 56:6), can we be content with this word "Lord" which many have dared to substitute His Name with? Can we say with David in Ps. 5:11, "But let all those rejoice who put their trust in You . . . let those also who love Your Name, be joyful in You."

Elohim's end-time prophecy of Isa. 56:6-7 could mean a blessing, or an exclusion to us, "Also the sons of the foreigner, who joined themselves to Yahuweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahuweh, to be His servants - everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and holds fast My Covenant - even them I will bring to My Set-apart Mountain, and make them joyful in My house of prayer." Again, He prophecies about this time in Hosea 2:16-17," "'And it shall be, in the day' says Yahuweh, 'That you will. . . no longer call me: My Baal; for I will take from her mouth the names of the Baals, and they shall be remembered by their name no more.'"

The prophecy of Zeph. 3:9 must be fulfilled, "For then I will restore to the peoples a pure language, that they all may call on the Name of Yahuweh, to serve Him with one accord."

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Another proof is Rev. 14:1, which in the Textus Receptus based translations read somewhat differently to what is found in the newer versions. Rev. 14:1-5, in Green's Interlinear Translation reads, "And I saw, and behold, a Lamb standing on the Mount Zion! And with Him a hundred and forty-four thousand, having the Name of His Father written upon their foreheads . . . These are those who were not defiled . . . These are those following the Lamb wherever He may go. These were redeemed... first-fruit to Elohim . . . And no guile was found in their mouth, for they are without blemish before the throne of Elohim."

The Nestle-Aland text reads, "having His Name and the Name of His Father written on their foreheads." Do we wish to be part of this first-fruit company? Then we are to make quite certain that we have the Father's Name and the Lamb's Name on (or in) our foreheads. The similarity between their Names is obvious. Whether it will be just one Name, Yah, or whether it will be both Yahuweh and Yahushua, is not clearly indicated, and is less important - as long as we have the essential part of the Name, Yah, which transmits its etymological concept of life, ever-lasting life. Verses 4-5 warn us against defilement - spiritual defilement - the lies that we have inherited, including the lies about the Names, "0 Yahuweh, ... the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, 'Surely our fathers have inherited lies' . . .' Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know . . .; and they shall know My Name is Yahuweh" (Jer. 16:19-21), a prophecy for the end-time.

"Therefore My people shall know My Name" (Isa. 52:6). "I will bring the one-third through the fire, will refine them as silver is refined, and test them as gold is tested.

They will call on My Name, and I will answer them.

I will say, 'This is My people'; and each one will say,

'Yahuweh is my Mighty One'

"(Zech. 13:9). "For then will I restore to the peoples a pure language, that they all may call on the Name of Yahuweh, to serve Him with one accord" (Zeph. 3:9). "And Yahuweh shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be - 'Yahuweh is one,' and His Name one" (Zech. 14:9)

He will no longer be called by all those hundreds of names, by which He is known today. His Name will be "one." And His Son, in whose Name the Father's Name is contained, will subject Himself to His Father in that day (1 Cor. 15:28).

[bold and underline emphasis mine]

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